tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22646012.post4923127169962169260..comments2023-11-04T00:19:12.362+11:00Comments on I'm ramblin' again: #2- The Gettysburg Principle: Make it only 279 Words.Justinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04773963984084893424noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22646012.post-28150918818711750232008-04-20T07:24:00.000+10:002008-04-20T07:24:00.000+10:00Amen. It was a privilege to have known him.Thank y...Amen. It was a privilege to have known him.<BR/><BR/>Thank you Justin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22646012.post-75866256719214022032008-04-19T13:50:00.000+10:002008-04-19T13:50:00.000+10:00Jason:ValeFormer CMS missionary and long-time rect...Jason:<BR/><BR/><I>Vale<BR/>Former CMS missionary and long-time rector of Holy Trinity, Baulkham Hills, the Rev Geoff Croft passed away on February 10.<BR/>Mr Croft was born in 1919 and ordained by Bishop Marcus Loane in 1958. He was a CMS missionary in Tanzania in the Diocese of Central Tanganyika from 1958 to 1963 and in the Diocese of Victoria Nyanza from 1964 to 1967.<BR/>Mr Croft served at Holy Trinity, Baulkham Hills for two decades, from 1967 to 1987.</I>Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04773963984084893424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22646012.post-70356334311246871172008-04-19T09:24:00.000+10:002008-04-19T09:24:00.000+10:00Another Driscoll-ite?Another Driscoll-ite?Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04773963984084893424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22646012.post-67456728328413470042008-04-19T09:15:00.000+10:002008-04-19T09:15:00.000+10:00Justin, I wholeheartedly agree. I often struggle n...Justin, I wholeheartedly agree. I often struggle not to run out of church (or buisiness meetings for that matter) screaming, when I have to sit and listen to even one minute of nonsense. But recently I listened to several hours of Mark Driscoll in one sitting before I got a "Brain Full" error and needed to come up for air!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22646012.post-11734407142543074772008-04-19T02:54:00.000+10:002008-04-19T02:54:00.000+10:00Jason - indeed. You'll notice that I am not limiti...Jason - indeed. You'll notice that I am not limiting the length of a sermon. I am just making sure that if someone speaks for an hour, that it was an hours worth of truth and wisdom.Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04773963984084893424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22646012.post-6125399245501345842008-04-18T23:42:00.000+10:002008-04-18T23:42:00.000+10:00As teenagers my friends (including the gorgeous bl...As teenagers my friends (including the gorgeous blonde I later married) and I would sit through one hour sermons, delivered by a wonderfully Godly man - Geoff Croft. Romans 8 lasted one year. What a foundation!<BR/><BR/>The Holy Spirit will determine the length of the sermon; all we need to do is pray, prepare, show up and move our lips.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22646012.post-78223725809173345132008-03-17T22:05:00.000+11:002008-03-17T22:05:00.000+11:00so how'd it go?so how'd it go?Walshyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12961277045775781062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22646012.post-77039256760893408052008-03-12T14:48:00.000+11:002008-03-12T14:48:00.000+11:00i think my favorite part is the literature expert....i think my favorite part is the literature expert. My second favorite is your point that we should say our 279 words before we mess up the sermon. so true.ReconciledBloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01636736740604981808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22646012.post-36310106504302105732008-03-11T15:45:00.000+11:002008-03-11T15:45:00.000+11:00Frackin' A! I might even be tempted to go to a ch...Frackin' A! I might even be tempted to go to a church (occasionally) where I knew the sermons would be limited to 279 words. =)<BR/><BR/> I believe in you Justin. You can do this.Benjamin Adyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03325520894212279303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22646012.post-84467496766679139222008-03-11T05:32:00.000+11:002008-03-11T05:32:00.000+11:00Got it. Thanks for the post.Got it. Thanks for the post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22646012.post-67026779872829831142008-03-11T05:09:00.000+11:002008-03-11T05:09:00.000+11:00Lance -- welcome. Re speech length -- Sure. See my...Lance -- welcome. <BR/><BR/>Re speech length -- Sure. See my comment to Shane (two comments above yours). <BR/><BR/>I do not believe that we can say all that needs to be said in 279 words. But that a cap like that may force us to be efficient, and, God willing, more powerful in what we say.Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04773963984084893424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22646012.post-45479599171646527022008-03-11T02:16:00.000+11:002008-03-11T02:16:00.000+11:00I get your point.At the same time, The Gettysburg ...I get your point.<BR/><BR/>At the same time, The Gettysburg Address was not a sermon in cooperation with the work of the Spirit.<BR/><BR/>I have not counted the words in the Sermon on the Mount, nor of Stephen's or Peter's sermons in Acts, but I'm betting they tip the 279 scale a bit.<BR/><BR/>Nonetheless, I think I see your point. We should prepare as if every word counts, rather than ramble on.<BR/><BR/>BTW: How many of us, without looking, can state Lincoln's central proposition in the G. A.?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22646012.post-25891862352147883732008-03-10T11:34:00.000+11:002008-03-10T11:34:00.000+11:00interesting endeavor, Justin - hoping to hear how ...interesting endeavor, Justin - hoping to hear how it went!EJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18202717602412488271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22646012.post-593207672403561382008-03-09T00:57:00.000+11:002008-03-09T00:57:00.000+11:00Shane -- Sure!I could have chosen Paul to the Athe...Shane -- Sure!<BR/><BR/>I could have chosen Paul to the Athenians -- 266 words (NIV). Or something shorter or longer. I certainly believe that 279 words is not enough to explain everything. Stephen's speech in Acts 7 is 1221 (NIV), and I'm not going to criticize that!<BR/><BR/>The point is to choose anything that forces you to be efficient and clear and uplifting and true.Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04773963984084893424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22646012.post-51910215925101707332008-03-08T21:30:00.000+11:002008-03-08T21:30:00.000+11:00its defintely clever - and a great exercise - but ...its defintely clever - and a great exercise - but why not some other great speach that is slightly shorter or longer. its an abitrary number. like 20 minutes for sermon length. why not 21 or 12 minutes.<BR/><BR/>how long does the Gettysburg take to read? hmmm the magic sermon length...Shanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08928615980603395277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22646012.post-2505252987126447732008-03-08T05:10:00.000+11:002008-03-08T05:10:00.000+11:00wow, talking about OCD!!!but yeah it's a cool idea...wow, talking about OCD!!!<BR/><BR/>but yeah it's a cool idea. it'd be great if your 279 words would HIT US OVER OUR FACES like how they did it in "a beautiful mind" movie (remember?). wouldn't THAT be really cool!??!seapeahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14685237753392156416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22646012.post-64569538078242209782008-03-07T22:11:00.000+11:002008-03-07T22:11:00.000+11:00Only now do I read your post!! I have 2 talks of a...Only now do I read your post!! I have 2 talks of around 4000 words ready to deliver for a women's day tomorrow. I think for one more day the Everett in me will have to live on! Susan Shiner (nee Everett)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22646012.post-48235482632973435582008-03-07T14:52:00.000+11:002008-03-07T14:52:00.000+11:00I suggest we print out this blog and then have air...I suggest we print out this blog and then have airplanes fly over churches dispensing these pamphlets from the sky.Stanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02744611628375476156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22646012.post-14683299005533583682008-03-07T14:20:00.000+11:002008-03-07T14:20:00.000+11:00I just did my first word count on this Sunday's se...I just did my first word count on this Sunday's sermon. 277 words...and I've reached the introduction.<BR/><BR/>Time to get concise.Anthony Douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16277745466192451883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22646012.post-68080409341343525112008-03-07T12:19:00.000+11:002008-03-07T12:19:00.000+11:00Sounds like good advice for blog posts too.Sounds like good advice for blog posts too.byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22646012.post-45547165798384326902008-03-07T10:13:00.000+11:002008-03-07T10:13:00.000+11:00I sometimes wonder why people take so long to say ...I sometimes wonder why people take so long to say things. But then unless I write something down, I ramble and through in all sorts of useless information.<BR/><BR/>Some people have a natural gift to keep other people's attention for long periods, with others God is gracious. <BR/><BR/>I have a feeling that if Lincoln had said more, his speech would have been remembered anyway, though the simplicity of his honouring did help a bit.<BR/><BR/>Soon we might have a generation though who can't say anything longer than 160 characters.Petehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13144708535489346282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22646012.post-11396804857432152392008-03-07T08:34:00.000+11:002008-03-07T08:34:00.000+11:00Laurel suggested I wear the hat at church...:)(Wha...Laurel suggested I wear the hat at church...<BR/><BR/>:)<BR/><BR/>(What do you mean, by the way, by 'arbitrarily clever'.)Justinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04773963984084893424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22646012.post-12891042412027224372008-03-07T08:31:00.000+11:002008-03-07T08:31:00.000+11:00arbitrarily clever -but are you as clever as old ...arbitrarily clever -but are you as clever as old Ab? could you also grow a beard and shave the mo?Shanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08928615980603395277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22646012.post-88174971608503311732008-03-06T19:12:00.000+11:002008-03-06T19:12:00.000+11:00It also helps to be one of the greatest leaders in...It also helps to be one of the greatest leaders in human history.Con Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17592015471076489647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22646012.post-80429067627747872222008-03-06T17:57:00.000+11:002008-03-06T17:57:00.000+11:00278 or 279? You seem undecided. Actually, I think ...278 or 279? You seem undecided. <BR/><BR/>Actually, I think this is brilliant brilliant strategy. Hope it rocks. You should always be tempted just to say the 278/9 and sit down. Then you will know that you have got it right.michael jensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15379361601019023165noreply@blogger.com